• Patrick Norris

99. Dr. Todd Bowman – Borderline Personality Disorder: How to Deal with Difficult People



Welcome to Episode 99 of the Red Ink Revival Leadership Podcast. Today’s conversation is with psychologist Dr. Todd Bowman as we discuss Borderline Personality Disorder.

Dr. Bowman is the Associate Professor of Counseling at Indiana Wesleyan University. He is an Adjunct Professor for Human Sexuality at Nazarene Theological Seminary. He is an Adjunct Professor of the Intro to Psychology at Nazarene Bible College. He also is an evaluating psychologist for assessing seminary applicants for seminaries.

Our conversation takes us into the following:

  • The difference between a personality disorder and a mood disorder.

  • Whether personality disorders are biological/genetic or spawned from interpersonal wounds.

  • What Borderline Personality Disorder is and many of the features it presents.

  • How childhood traumatic experiences in our stories generate personality disorders.

  • How the greatest influence to forming our personalities are probably interpersonal negligence and trauma, rather than genetics.

  • What happens in the womb in prenatal formations of a baby’s brain.

  • Patrick’s childhood story of growing up with a mom with diagnosable Borderline Personality Disorder.

  • How difficult it is for people with personality disorders to have capacity for self-reflection and self-awareness.

  • How we will begin to feel something is “off” in our own bodies when interacting with people with personality disorders.

  • Why self-differentiation and boundaries are key to staying engaged with people with personality disorders.

  • Therapies that a person with Borderline Personality Disorder can do to move to health and flourishing.

  • How to functionally lead people who show markers of Borderline Personality Disorder.

Recommended book: Stop Walking on Eggshells – Taking Your Life Back When Someone You Care About Has Borderline Personality Disorder (Paul T. Mason and Randi Kreger)


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Edited and produced by Evan (Emac) McAlister.

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